On this episode of TBNE, Rob talks to Peter Hopwood, public speaker, coach, and Events MC who has lived in seven countries, and worked in 32. Peter travels the world now virtually to help professionals define craft and deliver stronger stories and take control of their messages, storyline and speaking impact.
Peter talks about developing confidence and then having a sense of self awareness to be an effective public speaker. He says that this is all achievable through repetition, and letting others judge you, because there’s nothing you can do about it. The best way to move forward is to just be internally driven, and to continue seeking new experiences. Whether you want to be a career public speaker or just want to impress investors with a sales pitch, all you need to do is practice, and keep at it.
- Simple communication is the best communication
- There's more to communication than just words
- The journey counts just as much as the destination
- The joys of MC'ing and commanding a room
- You need to connect to people to engage them
- Repetition is a good confidence booster
- Reading a room and being self aware is a skill onto itself
- How to make it as a public speaker
- Let them judge you, but don't let them drive you
Peter: "Whenever we're presenting or speaking or connecting, um, a zoom call, a virtual exchange, a presentation, a Ted talk, a CEO speaking to all of his employees, all of the teams, whatever it is. We feel when we listen to someone, we can feel that energy.
Peter: “As humans, our brains are really good at detecting how people feel about what they're saying and also how they often feel about themselves. It's a strange thing. And we can detect that in so many ways through our voice, through the energy, the pace."
Peter: "I think it's good advice to just keep trying stuff, keep moving and keep doing different things."
Rob: "I always knew at a younger age that I wanted to teach and speak. Those are two things I was good at from a young age. But I would never be able to be where I'm at today with my career and doing those things and the way that I'm doing them now, without all the experiences of going into marketing and working in recruitment and then going to Italy and getting a masters and working for a startup and all these things that I'm currently doing to get me where I'm at and to have the confidence to deliver."
Peter: "That's the confidence. So believing you can stand on a stage and share content that is going to really connect and really make people feel something. And so one of those things that helps with that, is if you've done it before. So the more times you do something, the more so -- anything we do lots of times, our brain tells us [we're] good at it."
Peter: "When I'm working, when I'm with a client, most of the time I'm listening. So I'm really listening to what's being said, really kind of listening to with my eyes, looking at how this person is feeling about the content, about themselves, about the perception of others when they see them."
Peter: "The more you listen and the more you're kind of curious to really figure out how you come across, how others generally see you, it can really make a difference."
Peter: "Today, judgment is a really big thing. We'd constantly being judged. We're be being judged even more now than we've ever been. Right. And so that judgment can make us feel so many things. There's a whole scale of making this feel good because of the likes that we get or the comments we get, and that is kind of like a, almost like false, a false reality for many. And then there's others that are happy with themselves and happy that the know they're doing quite well and they want to learn and they're not perfect. And that's cool. Keep going, let others judge you. Say to yourself. Okay, That's okay. They have the right to judge you."
Peter: "I often say to the people I work with, saying listen: let people judge you, you cannot stop them. They will judge what you wear, what you look like, your hairstyle, your voice. They may not like you because they just don't like your shoes. They may not like you because they don't like your voice. They may not like you because they don't like the content — hopefully not, but that may happen. And that's okay. As long as you're trying to get to an outcome, trying to share messages, trying to give value, right. So letting people judge us is, okay, but don't let good judgment drive you forward."
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